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Topic: Invalid complete games.
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phystutordotcomUnited States flag
Mar 9 2011 05:47 AM
Some of us have invalid complete games that are not our fault. The need has arisen to clarify what I will count and not count as a valid game.

1. All games which both players have made 2 moves will be considered valid.

2. Games that have competitive spirit will be considered valid.

3. Game with instructional merit will be considered valid.

4. All tournament wins are valid.

5. Draws that increase you chance of winning or advancing in the tournament are valid even if ther is less than 5 half moves.

6. Gmes with less than 5 half moves are invalid for the loser.

7. Draws that do not increase you chance of advancing or winning a tournament are invalid when there are less than 5 half moves.

8. Non-tournament games that start at the original position and are less than 5 half moves are invalid.

9. Games that start from the non standard starting position will be considered valid when there is instructional intent even if there is less than 2 moves.

I will assume that most of us have a few invalid games. I will only make adjustments when someone has more than 30 invalid games.

Anyone who is on the the top 20 list or US to ten list can make a claim against someone else on the list. Those not on the list can make a claim only if they are claiming that they would be top 20 or top 10 US if their claim was approved.

Insincere or inaccurate claims will cause me to doubt future claims from that person.

IkeBolevsky has more invalid games than I want to count. Until he tells me how many he has I will just deleted h im from the list

elche stated in a reply that bergmen has 33 invalid games. I am too lazy to varify this claim and know that elche is a sincere and resonable player. If no one claims to have a more accurate estimate I will lower Bergmen's total by 3 games. To my knowledge everyone believes that Bergmen has shown perfect sportmanship. These 33 invalid games are not his fault.

whyBishNew Zealand flag
Mar 4 2011 04:56 AM
Sweet.

phystutordotcomUnited States flag
Mar 8 2011 08:41 PM
I want to clarify why I removed Ike from the list.

Anyone in the top 20 can report that anyone else in the top 20 has an excessive number of invalid games. I am in the top 20. I estimate that Ike has more than 1000 invalid games. It is a quick and careless estimate. When I subtract 970 from his total it lowers his number of complete game so far that it removes him from the top 20. If someone wants to count his invalid games I will accept their result until someone else demonstrates that they have made a more accurate assesment of his invalid games.

elcheCanada flag
Mar 8 2011 09:41 PM
Because I'm the one with whom Bluethoot (the pirate) has played the most invalid games, I'm the only one penalized. I refuse to be part of the list of the greatest number of completed games. I do not want to be associated with this pirate. Many people think that the pirate is me and you are one of them phystutordotcom. That is the reason why you made the rule of 30 games, to eliminate everyone exepted me. I demand that the line no. 6 be removed. This is my last visit to this site. There is life after Queenalice.
Poor Bergman, he has 33 invalid games and he will be punished in turn /:-(


tewaldUnited States flag
Mar 8 2011 09:55 PM
elche, please remember that phystutordotcom is not the one who runs Queen Alice. Not liking his "rules" doesn't mean you have to leave the whole site. Personally, I'd like to see all of the endgames played (without whole games) removed from the list, but that's phystutordotcom's decision, not mine. Not a big deal.

phystutordotcomUnited States flag
Mar 9 2011 05:37 AM
I have played elche. I enjoyed our games. To my knowledge elche has been a perfect citizen on Queen Alice. I have no reason to think that he bears any responsibility for bluetooth's misdeeds. Suppose that bluetooth had selected and immediately resigned 10 000 games against IkeBrolevski. Would that mean that Ike and bluetooth should be 1 and 2 on the list?

Gil compiled a list. His list does not deviate from the queen alice account. I mention that in my introduction and encourage people to see his list which is one of the replies.

Tewald is right. I have no authority here. Anyone can create their list and start a new topic. They can define complete game as they choose. If they exclude games that dont start from the original position Tewald will the top us player on that list. I regret that my list has offended a player that has contributed positively to this site by participating in many tournaments and by being a fine opponent for so many members.

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