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Topic: Is it worth it? (trading queen for 2 rooks)
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Viper_SBCanada flag
Jan 4 2007 00:02 AM
I'm wondering if it's worth trading your queen for 2 rooks?

The game is this one http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=2917405

I'm more curious if it'd have been worth it for me to keep my queen. I did it because it seems much more worth it. But would it have been better to keep it?

m_2788Brazil flag
Jan 4 2007 02:42 AM
2 rooks = 10 x queen = 9
I always overvalue my queen...because her power of atack...
But it seens that in this game, it is really OK.
The queen is alone, there is the dangerous queen side pawns...
But I think two rooks together can do a good job...

Marcos

kapilgainIndia flag
Jan 4 2007 09:59 AM
I generally weigh two rooks slightly more than a queen. Note that a queen is actually bishop + rook and that is just around 5 + 3 = 8 pawns. We add another pawn to the equation making it 9 pawns due to the fact that the queen enjoys the powers of both rook and bishop at the same time, thus has tremendous mobility on an open board. But to me it is really not clear if this advantage is really worth a full pawn. (I think only GMs and experts can tell you if this is right or wrong. %-) )

sripradeepIndia flag
Jan 8 2007 02:12 AM
I have read that though a queen is less valuable than a pair of rooks, its has a slight edhge over a pair of rooks when it comes to actual winning, ofcourse it also depends on the other pieces and pawns on the board.

Viper, you better connect your rooks, or is it too late?

Viper_SBCanada flag
Jan 8 2007 10:12 AM
No it's not to late, I will.

PhilidorUnited States flag
Mar 1 2007 05:50 PM
I have a database of games where I study certain players and there openings after filtering the Shredder 9 database, and have found in a game one guy (I believe is Petrosian, or Ulf Anderssen) That if he gave the queen for two minor pieces and a rook that he'd be better, especially with the great control of important squares, lines, and less pawn islands as in the game. Personally, I have traded a queen for a two rooks before going into a bishop and rook vs. queen endgame, the pawns where evenly distributed and I eventually drew. In "Improve your positional chess" by Hansen theres a section "the value of a queen" which answers the question greatly. Also I prefer fixed, closed, or mobile centeres to open centers (no pawns on e4,e5,d4,d5) as I get uneasy due to there rushed nature, I'm an excellent tactician (largely due to "How to become a deadly tactician" and "Think like a grandmaster") but prefer positions where the probability of blundering is not as bad (IE: instead of only one or two moves are playable in that position many more are sound)

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