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I have a remark concerning the tournaments where you are playing simultaneously 2 games against the same opponent (one with white and one with black pieces).
Let's say you wait for your opponent to play on the board he is white, then you just make the same move on the other board. Then you wait for the response on this second board, then you "copy" the response on the first board.
Etc. etc.
This method guaranty you to make an overall draw against any opponent, whatever his rating, doesn't it ?
Not extremely fairplay, I concede. I just ask the question. My goal is not to give bad ideas. What do you think about it ?
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Yes. This is well known and a potential weakness of the tournament system here. If your opponent tries it, complain to the site admin.
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But what could Miguel do? It's not illegal, is it? If someone were doing that to me on my favorite opening, I might purposely make a bad move...or maybe delay one game for a while. You could actually declare vacation time and only move in one game. ;-)
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Why would a person silly enough to repeat your moves in 2nd game .You can copy your opponent move but he is not forced to copy to your moves. Btw your opponenet could do something like that .
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1242914
Its part of game you see . <Let's say you wait for your opponent to play on the board he is white, then you just make the same move on the other board. Then you wait for the response on this second board, then you "copy" the response on the first board. > Suppose game1 which has been started earlier and your opponent is white ,Game 2 you are white . You can force your opponent to play his white move first in game1 as a result of game 1 being started earlier but u cannot force him to play his response with black in game 2 earlier
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tewald wrote: But what could Miguel do? It's not illegal, is it? |
Miguel could do whatever he wanted, up to and including disabling the user's account. (I'm not saying that would be appropriate, just that be *could* do it.) It might not be against the letter of the laws but it's clearly against the spirit of the game. If everybody did this, every tournament would be a 20-way tie and that can't possibly be the intent of the site.
You could actually declare vacation time and only move in one game. |
Good point. Though it would be annoying to have to use up vacation time against this and the determined opponent could match your vacation.
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rohit_raj wrote: Why would a person silly enough to repeat your moves in 2nd game. |
Because it guarantees that either both games are drawn or one is won and one lost. If your opponent is much lower rated than you are, scoring 50% would be a big boost to their rating.
You can copy your opponent move but he is not forced to copy to your moves. |
If you're copying your opponent's moves in both games (one as black and one as white), he's just playing himself. It doesn't matter what moves you make. Suppose you are playing against copycat. In game 1, you have white. The sequence is the following.
Game 1: rohit_raj plays 1.e4 Game 2: copycat plays 1.e4 Game 2: rohit_raj plays 1... e5 Game 1: copycat plays 1... e5 Game 1: rohit_raj plays 2.Nf3 Game 2: copycat plays 2.Nf3
etc. You have no choice in the matter.
Suppose game1 which has been started earlier and your opponent is white ,Game 2 you are white. You can force your opponent to play his white move first in game1 as a result of game 1 being started earlier but u cannot force him to play his response with black in game 2 earlier |
In a tournament, the two games start at almost the same time -- within a second. The only way you can try to force your opponent to move first is to come dangerously close to losing on time yourself in the other game. And then you'd have to go back and claim the first game on time, which would take a few seconds and potentially give your opponent time to copy your move, especially if the site is being slow (which it has been quite a bit, recently).
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