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Topic: Who plays with help of data base in QA ?

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richerby

knightsdefence wrote: If people are using computers like Richerby suggests then its just a judge of who's got the best software.

No, it's a test of who's making the best use of their software. Suppose that, after a couple of days, your computer has analysed to 20 ply. Even if you give it another two days, it'll only see one more ply -- not a massive advantage. So the skill is in directing the computer as to which lines it should consider, to avoid lines that simplify into bad endgames and so on.

Even relatively weak humans can consistently beat computers at correspondence chess. For example, Arno Nickel (FIDE rating 2101) has a +2=1-0 record against Hydra at correspondence chess.

scandien

interesting richerby ...

where did you find such information ? Can we get the game somewhere ?

TheAlchemist

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 Qc7 6. Be3 a6 7. Qd2 Nf6 8. O-O-O Bb4 9. f3 Ne5 10. Nb3 b5 11. Qe1 Be7 12. f4 Nc4 13. e5 Ng4 14. Bd4 O-O 15. Bd3 Bb7 16. Qe2 Nh6 17. Nd2 d5 18. g4 Rac8 19. Rhg1 b4 20. Ncb1 a5 21. Nf3 a4 22. f5 Bc5 23. Qf2 a3 24. bxa3 Bxd4 25. Qxd4 bxa3 26. f6 Ba6 27. Bxc4 Qxc4 28. Qxc4 Bxc4 29. Nd4 Ra8 30. Rg3 Bxa2 31. Nxa3 Rfb8 32. h3 Rb7 33. Rdd3 gxf6 34. exf6 Rb6 35. Rc3 Kh8 36. Rc6 Rb4 37. Nab5 e5 38. Nd6 exd4 39. Ra3 Rb1+ 40. Kd2 Rab8 41. Rxa2 Rf1 42. Rb6 Rg8 43. g5 1-0

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 Qxd5 5. Ngf3 cxd4 6. Bc4 Qd6 7. O-O Nf6 8. Nb3 Nc6 9. Nbxd4 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 a6 11. Re1 Qc7 12. Qe2 Bc5 13. c3 h6 14. Bd3 Bd7 15. Be3 Bd6 16. g3 O-O 17. Qd2 Ng4 18. Rad1 Rfe8 19. Nb3 Nxe3 20. Qxe3 Rad8 21. Qe4 g6 22. Bf1 Bc6 23. Qe3 Kh7 24. Bg2 e5 25. Bxc6 Qxc6 26. Qe4 Qxe4 27. Rxe4 Bc7 28. Ree1 b6 29. Na1 Kg7 30. Nc2 Rxd1 31. Rxd1 Rd8 32. Rxd8 Bxd8 33. Nb4 a5 34. Nd5 f5 35. c4 Kf7 36. a4 Ke6 37. b3 g5 38. h3 h5 39. Kf1 g4 40. h4 f4 41. Ke2 Kf5 42. Kf1 Ke4 43. Ke2 fxg3 44. fxg3 Kd4 45. Kd2 e4 46. Ke2 e3 47. Ke1 Kd3 48. Kd1 e2+ 49. Ke1 Kc2 50. Kxe2 Kxb3 51. Kd3 Kxa4 52. Kc2 Bxh4 53. gxh4 g3 54. Nf4 Kb4 0-1

richerby

scandien wrote: where did you find such information?

Google plus a vague memory that somebody had a winning record againt Hydra.

Can we get the game somewhere?

TheAlchemist has posted the scores of the decisive games; you can find the drawn game and play through them at

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?&playercomp=either&player=nickel&player2=hydra

lahdidah

Isn't that like going into a tournament with a chess computer next to you? :-X

lame!

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